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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by BarsMonster » Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:33 am

OCP wrote:Do you have an approximate time you expect the project to go live? I see from the first post here, it has been over a year of discussion.
Is it going to be up in days? weeks? months? year? Just curious,
Thanks
Mmm... soon :-)
Might be today, might be next year :crazy:

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by BarsMonster » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:20 am

2009-11-10 02:18:54.0 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Salty Cracker started
2009-11-10 02:18:54.0 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Init SSE2
2009-11-10 02:18:54.0 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Key found: x for hash: 9dd4e461268c8034f5c8564e155c67a6
2009-11-10 02:18:54.0 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Key found: zx for hash: e6c760b3216a51c656c5861d72d5bf62
2009-11-10 02:18:54.0 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Init Display
2009-11-10 02:18:54.3 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:State saved.
2009-11-10 02:18:54.6 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Key found: aaaa for hash: 74b87337454200d4d33f80c4663dc5e5
2009-11-10 02:18:54.6 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Key found: zxcv for hash: fd2cc6c54239c40495a0d3a93b6380eb
2009-11-10 02:18:59.2 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Key found: superq for hash: 21685d282d79098b89bdf5a916b66c90
2009-11-10 02:20:40.6 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Key found: testtes for hash: ed901cfb4e37beb63f7a1a27724a419a
2009-11-10 02:21:51.2 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:State saved.

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by DarkPrince » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:35 am

BarsMonster wrote:
2009-11-10 02:18:54.0 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Salty Cracker started
2009-11-10 02:18:54.0 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Init SSE2
2009-11-10 02:18:54.0 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Key found: x for hash: 9dd4e461268c8034f5c8564e155c67a6
2009-11-10 02:18:54.0 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Key found: zx for hash: e6c760b3216a51c656c5861d72d5bf62
2009-11-10 02:18:54.0 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Init Display
2009-11-10 02:18:54.3 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:State saved.
2009-11-10 02:18:54.6 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Key found: aaaa for hash: 74b87337454200d4d33f80c4663dc5e5
2009-11-10 02:18:54.6 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Key found: zxcv for hash: fd2cc6c54239c40495a0d3a93b6380eb
2009-11-10 02:18:59.2 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Key found: superq for hash: 21685d282d79098b89bdf5a916b66c90
2009-11-10 02:20:40.6 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Key found: testtes for hash: ed901cfb4e37beb63f7a1a27724a419a
2009-11-10 02:21:51.2 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:State saved.
hardcore hashes!

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by LordMike » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:02 pm

BarsMonster wrote:
2009-11-10 02:18:54.0 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Salty Cracker started
2009-11-10 02:18:54.0 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Init SSE2
2009-11-10 02:18:54.0 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Key found: x for hash: 9dd4e461268c8034f5c8564e155c67a6
2009-11-10 02:18:54.0 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Key found: zx for hash: e6c760b3216a51c656c5861d72d5bf62
2009-11-10 02:18:54.0 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Init Display
2009-11-10 02:18:54.3 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:State saved.
2009-11-10 02:18:54.6 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Key found: aaaa for hash: 74b87337454200d4d33f80c4663dc5e5
2009-11-10 02:18:54.6 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Key found: zxcv for hash: fd2cc6c54239c40495a0d3a93b6380eb
2009-11-10 02:18:59.2 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Key found: superq for hash: 21685d282d79098b89bdf5a916b66c90
2009-11-10 02:20:40.6 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Key found: testtes for hash: ed901cfb4e37beb63f7a1a27724a419a
2009-11-10 02:21:51.2 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:State saved.
Is that from the distributed cracker, where it downloads a chunk to work on?.. :)

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by DarkPrince » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:18 pm

and the speed is like 35M hashes/s? o_O

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by Rolf » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:42 pm

I bet it's not a CUDA version.

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by DarkPrince » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:45 pm

Rolf wrote:I bet it's not a CUDA version.
2009-11-10 02:18:54.0 COMPUTER[6192]:BarsWF:I:Init SSE2
guess not :?:

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by Xtothec » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:14 pm

We want beta !!! xD
Nice work so far ;)

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by BarsMonster » Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:13 am

Got first results on a production hash list (460k).
SSE2 speed is ~33-45% of single hash speed on this task. I believe this is not that bad provided that hash list in binary form does not fit in L2 cache on my CPU :-)
Guys with 0.5 and 1Mb of L2 cache would have serious problems running this task :-)
2009-11-12 00:09:22.6 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:------------------------------
2009-11-12 00:09:22.6 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Salty Cracker started
2009-11-12 00:09:23.6 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Init SSE2
2009-11-12 00:09:23.6 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Init Display
2009-11-12 00:09:23.9 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:State saved.
2009-11-12 00:09:24.4 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: aaaaaaaa for hash: 3dbe00a167653a1aaee01d93e77e730e
2009-11-12 00:09:24.4 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: daaaaaaa for hash: fab862c0c10fe5103dd17c36e34fbc8e
2009-11-12 00:09:24.4 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: mcaaaqaa for hash: 0247d6cc63247b3c97abab23a40dcc5f
2009-11-12 00:09:28.5 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: tkaaseto for hash: 3dff97a58c0d71f76a2f5ed885c1f045
2009-11-12 00:09:29.8 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: gbaazrlz for hash: 26a4c6e0c4c62da5c1c897adfddc4f90
2009-11-12 00:09:30.5 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: krabbpaj for hash: 269756641323894b2ab4eebad74396cb
2009-11-12 00:09:31.1 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: aaabdsdd for hash: 50406b93fcc82626ef86e858789bf235
2009-11-12 00:09:33.2 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: saabmust for hash: 2ca1204b67658a5fe1d83dce283db5ab
2009-11-12 00:09:33.4 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: acaboels for hash: 9cfb453a23737a68554db56330e2eb18
2009-11-12 00:09:36.6 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: craccato for hash: 74c1906cb1534646c3d28aef7acaac8e
2009-11-12 00:09:37.2 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: peaceman for hash: 513e8cc92d56dbc1c3133cae4d167ff4
2009-11-12 00:09:37.2 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: dcaceres for hash: c56ae58c560c8c8605320e5b08771407
2009-11-12 00:09:38.6 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: cracking for hash: 4d1f35512954cb227b25bbd92e15bc7b
2009-11-12 00:09:38.6 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: blackrpg for hash: 16343d6350eb10d19c55011c40c07ec2
2009-11-12 00:09:41.0 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: practice for hash: 8c40400c009918b5f10b73f9a0e47398
2009-11-12 00:09:42.4 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: nhadathp for hash: 59ae50d06cff6529b9c6d5f8e856dfeb
2009-11-12 00:09:43.1 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: deaddaed for hash: 94c482b3f4c3533341a2d64f19ceac75
2009-11-12 00:09:43.7 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: goadeath for hash: 3f91b2cdaedc2bf3c7039e2cf08c3de7
2009-11-12 00:09:43.8 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: kkaderis for hash: 2843d7a38f8db061423725083fb3683f
2009-11-12 00:09:44.4 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: readhero for hash: 914383da5ef3242b2df2b0ccfaa9776c
2009-11-12 00:09:44.4 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: deadhrho for hash: 07624dc6ba402f3aea1ac2e3df2bdf5b
2009-11-12 00:09:46.5 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: gbadqccr for hash: f5cd91d5411305b6d867b932512c1a0c
2009-11-12 00:09:46.9 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: raadshof for hash: af1d382ff87c63d025c65d7de1e98510
2009-11-12 00:09:46.9 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: gladsone for hash: 34832a4ebad65af6a37c3991d80651c4
2009-11-12 00:09:56.1 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: deafdrug for hash: 540efbb6f0fcb4a4ed747790d95682cd
2009-11-12 00:09:56.1 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: nkafefjx for hash: 016c51abecfa2a176b28f5dd5ffe70f7
2009-11-12 00:10:02.3 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: gnagflow for hash: d52f7bdf38970ca91ccdaaafcff53acc
2009-11-12 00:10:02.3 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: swagdude for hash: 0eb777e9809ad68a9b326bad901d0f12
2009-11-12 00:10:02.3 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: adagelis for hash: eb91d0a70fbe6817e96a3b146bf3faec
2009-11-12 00:10:05.7 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:Key found: slagskem for hash: 21b44c44abdaf9acac5a852661c5c4b0
2009-11-12 00:10:06.1 COMPUTER[6580]:SC:I:State saved.
PS. 1% of 8x[az] keyspace

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by LordMike » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:49 am

lol.. uh..
Can you detect the cache?..

Perhaps fit the list to the cache size?

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by BarsMonster » Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:07 pm

LordMike wrote:lol.. uh..
Can you detect the cache?..

Perhaps fit the list to the cache size?
Smaller structures will deliver lower speed anyway. :sad:

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by LordMike » Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:52 pm

BarsMonster wrote:
LordMike wrote:lol.. uh..
Can you detect the cache?..

Perhaps fit the list to the cache size?
Smaller structures will deliver lower speed anyway. :sad:
Well, nothing to do about that :P
Focus on CUDA.. :)

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by BarsMonster » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:42 pm

LordMike wrote:Focus on CUDA.. :)
Yes, my Lord Image

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by Crucifix » Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:31 am

This might seem like kind of a ridiculous question, but is there any kind of estimate for how many hash/second Salty will be able to do when it is up and running?

I'm pretty excited about this by the way, wish the client would get released : )

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by BarsMonster » Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:00 am

Crucifix wrote:This might seem like kind of a ridiculous question, but is there any kind of estimate for how many hash/second Salty will be able to do when it is up and running?

I'm pretty excited about this by the way, wish the client would get released : )
Well, for the 0.5 million hashes list, you may think 30-40% of single hash BarsWF speed multiplied by a number of clients we'll get.
I'll run 5 clients in my home :crazy:

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by LordMike » Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:39 am

BarsMonster wrote:
Crucifix wrote:This might seem like kind of a ridiculous question, but is there any kind of estimate for how many hash/second Salty will be able to do when it is up and running?

I'm pretty excited about this by the way, wish the client would get released : )
Well, for the 0.5 million hashes list, you may think 30-40% of single hash BarsWF speed multiplied by a number of clients we'll get.
I'll run 5 clients in my home :crazy:
6B * 0,3 = 1,8B * 500.000 = 900.000B effective rate.

EDIT: Decimals.
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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by Crucifix » Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:43 pm

LordMike wrote:
BarsMonster wrote:
Crucifix wrote:This might seem like kind of a ridiculous question, but is there any kind of estimate for how many hash/second Salty will be able to do when it is up and running?

I'm pretty excited about this by the way, wish the client would get released : )
Well, for the 0.5 million hashes list, you may think 30-40% of single hash BarsWF speed multiplied by a number of clients we'll get.
I'll run 5 clients in my home :crazy:
6B * 0.3 = 1.8B * 500.000 = 900.000B effective rate.
900B/sec would be beautiful, but I think 6B per client and 500 clients is a little optimistic :)

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by BarsMonster » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:11 pm

Crucifix wrote: 900B/sec would be beautiful, but I think 6B per client and 500 clients is a little optimistic :)
He is saying different thing, it's gonna check 900.000 billions of hash-password pairs per second on 1 node :-)

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by Sc00bz » Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:12 am

You should use T as in trillion instead or write like 900.000,0B because it's hard to tell the difference between that and 900,000B.
So that's 900T/sec.

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Post by LordMike » Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:37 am

Sc00bz wrote:You should use T as in trillion instead or write like 900.000,0B because it's hard to tell the difference between that and 900,000B.
So that's 900T/sec.
Yea, sorry on that :P

It seems I shift a little on whether I use decimal or point. Even in the same sentence o.0.. :P

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by BarsMonster » Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:52 am

Got first results on GPU multihash.
Speed drop is much lower, I am getting ~76% of single hash speed.

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by LordMike » Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:08 am

BarsMonster wrote:Got first results on GPU multihash.
Speed drop is much lower, I am getting ~76% of single hash speed.
6B * 0,76 = 4,56B * 500.000 = 2.280.000 B

Shiiit.. :P

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by neinbrucke » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:51 pm

bars, how much cache is on your cpu?
cause i 'only' dropped to like 70-75% with multihash support (125M) on sse2 md5. Of course i started out with a somewhat lower single hash speed (175M), but still :P

p.s. i have 3MB L2 cache.

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by BarsMonster » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:59 pm

neinbrucke wrote:bars, how much cache is on your cpu?
cause i 'only' dropped to like 70-75% with multihash support (125M) on sse2 md5. Of course i started out with a somewhat lower single hash speed (175M), but still :P

p.s. i have 3MB L2 cache.
I have 6Mb. Yes, fall is too deep, should be some problem with my code...
175M on SSE2 single hash? which CPU, which bruteforcer?

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Re: Distributed crypo-network discussion

Post by neinbrucke » Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:06 pm

oh btw, i have 3MB per core, so it's 12MB... you probably have the same, but dual core?
i have a Q9450, running it at 3.2 GHz. For you information: I get like 200-210 Mhashes/s with BarsWF.

brute forcer: http://blog.distracted.nl/2009/10/emdeb ... ihash.html (this version actually has a couple of bugs, but it finds hashes on windows :P)
i explain most of the stuff i use here: http://blog.distracted.nl/2009/09/multi ... pport.html
partial reversing still gained some speed over full md5... most speed is probably in the use of bitmaps for initial hash comparison, i used bitweasils implementation and optimized it.

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