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Nvidia or ATI

Post by knapish » Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:31 pm

Hi there, im wondering what i shall buy, i have a 4x4870x2 computer already but should i buy a 4x295gtx or another 4x4870x2. And wich processor? Amd phenom ll or i7?

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Re: Nvidia or ATI

Post by Bitweasil » Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:02 pm

Can you actually obtain GTX295s in bulk anywhere?

What are you planning to do? Pure MD5 cracking with BarsWF, or other products as well? nVidia appears to be currently supported with more cracking products.

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Re: Nvidia or ATI

Post by BarsMonster » Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:01 am

Yep, nVidia is wider supported. i7 is faster :-)

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Re: Nvidia or ATI

Post by Bitweasil » Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:03 am

BarsMonster wrote:Yep, nVidia is wider supported. i7 is faster :-)
That's largely because their programming environment isn't slopped together of "Oh... crap, we should probably do something about this... uh, here!"

i7 chips are <3 <3 <3, but GTX295s are really hard to find right now.

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Re: Nvidia or ATI

Post by LordMike » Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:50 pm

Prob. tells something about popularity or lack of logistics :P

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Re: Nvidia or ATI

Post by Bitweasil » Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:38 pm

LordMike wrote:Prob. tells something about popularity or lack of logistics :P
Low yields. If The Register is to be believed, nVidia loses a lot of money on each GTX295.

Hopefully they'll start showing up more, but putting together a 1.4B transistor chip reliably is just difficult.

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Re: Nvidia or ATI

Post by knapish » Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:51 pm

Bitweasil wrote:Can you actually obtain GTX295s in bulk anywhere?

What are you planning to do? Pure MD5 cracking with BarsWF, or other products as well? nVidia appears to be currently supported with more cracking products.
How i get them isnt intresting here :)

Well i dont know realy, me and some mates build a high-end computer for the school project earlier. But i think i only need cracking x)
Yeah, nVidia is supported by many but i dont know how the clocking ability is etc...

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Re: Nvidia or ATI

Post by mrb » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:26 am

knapish wrote: Hi there, im wondering what i shall buy, i have a 4x4870x2 computer already [...]
How do you use these 8 GPUs ? ATI drivers only support 4 GPUs (2 x 4870X2).

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Re: Nvidia or ATI

Post by LordMike » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:09 am

mrb wrote:
knapish wrote: Hi there, im wondering what i shall buy, i have a 4x4870x2 computer already [...]
How do you use these 8 GPUs ? ATI drivers only support 4 GPUs (2 x 4870X2).
I think he means... Buying a *new* pc... :P

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Re: Nvidia or ATI

Post by mrb » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:19 am

LordMike wrote: I think he means... Buying a *new* pc... :P
He said pretty clearly he already has a "4x4870x2" PC and is considering buying another one... Hmm waiting impatiently for his reply... although I am pretty sure he didn't figure out how to get the 8 GPUs detected :)

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Re: Nvidia or ATI

Post by LordMike » Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:53 am

mrb wrote:
LordMike wrote: I think he means... Buying a *new* pc... :P
He said pretty clearly he already has a "4x4870x2" PC and is considering buying another one... Hmm waiting impatiently for his reply... although I am pretty sure he didn't figure out how to get the 8 GPUs detected :)
If ATI drivers don't allow for 8 GPU's in total, spread across several computers...
I'm in doubt of how their drivers work at all...

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Re: Nvidia or ATI

Post by knapish » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:34 pm

mrb wrote:
knapish wrote: Hi there, im wondering what i shall buy, i have a 4x4870x2 computer already [...]
How do you use these 8 GPUs ? ATI drivers only support 4 GPUs (2 x 4870X2).
Its a long story but me and my mates from school had a project to build a high-end comp.
And yes we noticed about the drivers so we had to build our own drivers into our linux based OS.
But im kinda confident on buying the 295gtx now cause they are more widely supported.

EDIT: We got some help from ATI with the drivers :sad:

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Re: Nvidia or ATI

Post by mrb » Fri May 01, 2009 3:45 am

knapish wrote: Its a long story but me and my mates from school had a project to build a high-end comp.
And yes we noticed about the drivers so we had to build our own drivers into our linux based OS.
[...]
EDIT: We got some help from ATI with the drivers :sad:
Great ! Can you give more details ? I think a lot of people on that forum might be interested in how exactly ATI helped you did it.

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Re: Nvidia or ATI

Post by knapish » Fri May 01, 2009 11:52 am

mrb wrote:
knapish wrote: Its a long story but me and my mates from school had a project to build a high-end comp.
And yes we noticed about the drivers so we had to build our own drivers into our linux based OS.
[...]
EDIT: We got some help from ATI with the drivers :sad:
Great ! Can you give more details ? I think a lot of people on that forum might be interested in how exactly ATI helped you did it.
As soon i get my hands on the report i think next week, i could upload it. And my mate had some weird connection to ATI i could ask him about that if you like.

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Re: Nvidia or ATI

Post by mrb » Sat May 02, 2009 4:32 am

knapish wrote: As soon i get my hands on the report i think next week, i could upload it. And my mate had some weird connection to ATI i could ask him about that if you like.
Please do, I would love to know. Thanks in advance.

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